c'est quoi ce binss?

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c'est quoi ce binss?

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Re: c'est quoi ce binss?

Message non lupar ludique » ven. 16 déc. 2011 00:35

Petite fenêtre..? (was ist das?) :D
Nullam rem ex nihilo..(Lucrèce)

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Message non lupar Papy pop-pop » ven. 16 déc. 2011 10:31

J'avais déjà vu ça sur un autre forum. Une des multiples inventions farfelues brevetées. Un gars qui y croyait...mais pas réaliste. ça lui a coûté le prix de l'enregistrement du brevet et ça ne lui a sans doute rien rapporté. Faudra que je recherche l'explication. Là on ne peut pas la lire sans payer.
Quand on veut on trouve les moyens. Quand on ne veut pas on trouve un prétexte.

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Re: c'est quoi ce binss?

Message non lupar Zéphyrin » ven. 16 déc. 2011 10:32

un réacteur dans l'eau on dirait, glou glou glou

lit le texte c'est expliqué !

voila le texte de la page 1 que tu peux t'amuser à traduire avec google tu vas pas t'ennuyer !

This invention relates to a machine for inducing a flow of water thru a tube.
One object of the invention is to provide a simpler, more efficient, and more reliable machine for propelling any object, such as a boat, thru a liquid:
Another object is to provide a machine for inducing a flow of water thru a pipe system.
These and other objects will be made more apparent upon reading the following description.
A further object is to provide a simple machine for propelling a boat thru a liquid without the use of a screw propeller, pistons, gears, electric ignition system, water cooling system, or clutch, and without the mechanical losses attending these devices.
The present usual method of forcing a liquid thru a pipe system is to connect a pump in the system and provide a power unit for the pump. This, as well as the usual methods of propelling a boat, requires gears, bearings, and many moving parts, and thru them as well as thru the agitating action of the pump upon the water, much energy is wasted. The present invention provides a more efficient, and longer lasting machine for this purpose.
I attain the objects of my invention by the mechanism illustrated in the accompanying drawing in which,
Figure 1 is a longitudinal section thru a propulsion machine and a boat.
Figure 2 is an enlarged longitudinal section thru the main working parts of a steam propulsion machine.
Figure 3 is a section of the upper portion of pump 7, taken at right angles to the section shown in Figure 2.
Figure 4 shows an alternate machine wherein an elevated fuel tank is used instead of a fuel pump.
Similar numbers refer to similar parts thruout the several views.
1 is a handle connected to arms 2. 3 is a catch for arms 2. 4 is a spring connecting arms 2 to plunger 5 m fuel pump 7. 47 is a drain cock in tube 48. 42 and 43 are parts `of the fuel intake valve to pump 7. 40 is a plunger disposed near the bottom of pump compression chamber 52 and 41 is a valve at the top of said chamber. Valve 41 is independent of plunger 40 except that the stern of valve 41 may be inserted in a cylindrical hole in the upper portion of plunger 40 so as to hold 40 and 41 in line. That is to say either valve 41 or plunger 40 may move without causing the other to move.
Tube 8 joins chamber 6 of pump 9 to the fuel distributor 27 which supplies burners 24 shown in Figures 1 and 2. Valve 9 connects in tube 8.
Explosion chamber 21 in Figure 2 is provided with fins 23 and connects to propulsion tube 30. Gate, or valve, 28 is disposed at the junction as shown. Curved tube 18 leads from tube 30 to valve 17 which leads to chamber 21 thru tube 19. Cone 20 is preferably placed near the outlet of tube 19 where it enters chamber 21. Tube 52, containing valve 33 connects reservoir 36 to chamber 21. Burners 24 and fins 23 are preferably covered by hood 26, having an exhaust 25. 10 to 15 inclusive show apparatus for controlling valves 9 and 17: Tube 22 connects work chamber 51 to explosion chamber 21.
When the propulsion machine is not in use handle 1 may be used to release arms 2 from notches 3, and then raised to release the tension in spring 4, thereby releasing the pressure on the liquid fuel in chamber 6. Catches 3 are attached to the walls of pump 7 and are preferably notched as shown, to receive the ends of arms 2 to which spring 4 and handle I are attached as shown.
The act of raising piston 5 will draw fuel into chamber 6. Then to prepare the machine for starting, arms 2 will be forced down below the level of catches 3, then turned and raised until properly seated in the position shown in the drawing. This action will compress the fuel in chamber 6 and when valve 9 is opened by means such as pulling handle 15 out for a brief interval, fuel will flow thru tubes 8 to distributor 27 and thence to burners 24 where it may be ignited. After burners 24 have become sufficiently heated to gasify the liquid fuel that is fed to them, valve 9 may be kept continuously open to any desired degree to permit fuel to flow to the flame that heats the explosion chamber 21. Fins 23 are preferably used to more effectively transfer the heat from the flame to the walls of the explosion chamber 21. After chamber 21 has become sufficiently heated the engine is ready to start, and starting is accomplished by pulling starter handle 38 rearward for a short interval and then returning it to its original position. This action will cause connecting rod 35 to turn valve handle 34 and thereby open valve 33 long enough for the desired quantity of water to flow from reservoir 36, thru tube 52, into explosion chamber 21, where the heated walls of the chamber will suddenly transform the water into steam. This steam will forcibly eject most of the water from propulsion tube 30 in a backward direction. But as soon as the steam pressure becomes released by expan
sion, and by cooling due to contact with the cool water, gate 28, which turns on pivot 50, will be forced to open by the inrushing water, to some position such as indicated by 29, and a new supply of water will be drawn into tube 30.
Part of this water will enter tube 18, and when valve 17 is open said water will travel thru tube 19 to explosion chamber 21 where it will be sprayed onto the heated walls of said chamber by
means such as cane 20. The steam generated by this heat will again eject the water out thru the rear end of tube 30, and then draw a new supply in thru the forward end, part of which will be carried to the explosion chamber as before. The
repetition of this action will continuously draw water into the forward end of tube 30 and then rapidly eject it at the rear end, thereby propelling the boat forward. Clearly each explosion in chamber 2 I will close gate 28 against any forward water flow.
Once at each explosion piston 40 of the fuel pump 7 will be successively raised and lowered until the pressure in pressure chamber 6 is raised to equal the maximum steam pressure in chamber 21. To explain in more detail, an explosion in chamber 21 will force steam thru tube 22 to work chamber 51, (which will preferably be filled with oil) and piston 40 will be forced upward, thereby forcing the fuel in compression chamber 2 past valve 41 into pressure chamber 6. Then when the pressure in explosion chamber 21 becornes relieved, piston 40 will drop, valve 41 will close, and the pressure of the liquid fuel in tank 45, flowing down thru tube 44, will cause valve 42 to open, and the fuel will flow into chamber 52. When piston 40 ceases to drop, spring 43 will close valve 42 and the next explosion in chamber 21 will again force the fuel from chamber 52 to chamber 6. Clearly the pressure in chamber 6 will be constantly maintained approximately equal to the maximum steam pressure in chamber 21 and a constant supply of compressed liquid fuel will be stored in chamber 6.
The action of the fuel pump may be further explained as follows. Valve 41 is independent of plunger 40, as far as vertical action is concerned. The stem of valve 41 is preferably inserted into a cylindrical shaped structure over plunger 40, as shown, merely for the purpose of aligning said valve and plunger. When plunger 40 is forced upward the liquid from 52 is forced past valve 41 into chamber 6. Valve 41 will open only far enough to permit the liquid to pass, regardless of the range of action of plunger 40, and valve 41 will close of its own weight if given time. In any event any tendency of the liquid to return through valve 41 will close said valve immediately.
Under some circumstances the fuel tank might be elevated to such a position that gravity will furnish the desired pressure on the fuel at the burner. In such a case the fuel pump 1, and tube 22 might be omitted from the machine, and tube 44 be joined to tube 8.
Clearly the amount of heat, and therefore the quantity of fuel, required will be in proportion to the quantity of water evaporated in chamber 21. The proper ratio between these quantifies may be maintained by connecting levers 10 and 12 which control valves 9 and 17 respectively. Link II is preferably used for this purpose, and may be provided with adjusting means such as holes 53. Link 11 is also connected to one end of link 13, the other end of link 13 being attached to throttle handle 15. Link 13 is preferably provided with
means such as notches 14 that engage a tooth such as 54, disposed in the upper portion of dash board

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Re: c'est quoi ce binss?

Message non lupar Papy pop-pop » ven. 16 déc. 2011 10:59

Je n'ai pas de pb pour lire l'anglais mais quand j'active le lien je n'ai que le croquis de la 1ère page. Et quand je clique sur la 2e ça m'envoie sur le site qui vend le brevet. Comment fais-tu?

En quelques mots, ça a tous les inconvénients du moteur pop-pop (dont un rendement minable) + la complexité. C'est une propulsion par hydrojet pulsé. Pour qui la croisière sur le marteau piqueur?
Quand on veut on trouve les moyens. Quand on ne veut pas on trouve un prétexte.

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Re: c'est quoi ce binss?

Message non lupar Zéphyrin » ven. 16 déc. 2011 22:47

salut Papy-pop-pop
tu cherches dans google patents avec le N°du brevet US et tu télécharges le PDF, c'est le brevet complet, généralement de bonne qualité, bien lisible et également (moins souvent) lisible par OCR si tu veux du vrai texte éditable...en moins de 10 minutes.
avec Delphion et autres les recherches de brevets sont étendues à tous les pays mais payantes.
normalement les brevets sont dans le domaine public, mais l'accès n'est pas facilité pour les profanes, au contraire.

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Re: c'est quoi ce binss?

Message non lupar ULYSSE » ven. 6 janv. 2012 16:31

Bonjour à tous ! :D Salut Michel ! :biere: Ma modeste contribution à ta rubrique sur les "monstres" du pop-pop avec ce brevet déposé en 1982 au bureau des US Patents. Des idées...
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Brevet, schémas, détails et explications sous ce lien:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=4oI5AA ... oy&f=false
Nota : Remonter à fond le curseur en partie droite de l'écran pour accéder à la première page.
"Lorsque j'en étais encore à  les exécuter en petit, j'ai cessé d'en conclure que la chose réussirait aussi bien en grand." (Huygens)

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Re: c'est quoi ce binss?

Message non lupar Michel » ven. 6 janv. 2012 22:32

Merci pour le lien !
à quand le space pop avec les petits hommes verts ?
jump

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Re: c'est quoi ce binss?

Message non lupar Papy pop-pop » lun. 9 janv. 2012 20:52

C'est fou le nombre de brevets déposés sur le sujet!!! Or, les bateaux pop-pop étant fabriqués dans des pays qui se moquent pour la plupart des lois...en déposant un brevet il y a beaucoup plus de chance de perdre de l'argent que d'en gagner.
Quand on veut on trouve les moyens. Quand on ne veut pas on trouve un prétexte.


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